AMD Radeon HD 7870 GHz Edition & Radeon HD 7850 Review: Rounding Out Southern Islands
by Ryan Smith on March 5, 2012 12:01 AM ESTPower, Temperature, & Noise
As always, we wrap up our look at a new video card with a look at the physical performance attributes: power consumption, temperatures, and noise. Thanks to TSMC’s 28nm process AMD has been able to offer 6900 series performance on a much smaller chip, but what has that done to power consumption and all of its related properties? Let’s find out.
Please note that we’re including our 7870-based 7850 in these charts, even though none of AMD’s partners will be shipping a card in this exact configuration. Power consumption should be nearly identical to shipping cards, but temperatures and noise readings are going to be significantly different since most of those cards will be using open air coolers.
Radeon HD 7800 Series Voltages | ||||
Ref 7870 Load | Ref 7850 Load | Ref 7870 Idle | ||
1.219v | 1.213v | 0.85v |
When getting a voltage reading on our 7800 cards through GPU-Z, it was interesting to note that the load voltage was almost identical between the two cards: 1.219v versus 1.213v. While we believe GPU-Z is giving us the right readings, we’re not sure whether the 7850 voltages are the same we’ll be seeing on shipping cards because of the PCB differences.
Idle power consumption looks quite good, as you’d expect from GCN. Idle power consumption is virtually identical to the 7900 series at the wall, and only the 7700 series can beat 112W. This further goes to show just how much progress has been made with idle power consumption – the Cayman based 6900 series had good idle power consumption for its time, and yet the 7800 series beats it by 5W+ at the wall.
Long idle power consumption is virtually identical with the rest of the Southern Islands cards thanks to AMD’s ZeroCore Power technology. The next closest card is the GTX 560 Ti, and that’s at nearly 10W higher.
Moving on to load power testing, we have Metro 2033. Load power consumption here is about where you’d expect it to be, with the 7800 setups drawing more at the wall than the 6800 setups, but less than the 7900 and 6900 series. This is largely a consequence of performance, as the higher rendering performance of the 7800 series versus the 6800 series drives up CPU power consumption in order to generate more frames.
OCCT on the other hand gives us a more purified look at power consumption, and as you’d expect for 28nm it looks good. The 7870 ends up drawing only a few more watts at the wall compared to the 6870, showcasing the fact that the 7800 series is a drop-in replacement for the 6800 series from a power consumption perspective. The 7850 looks even better, capping out at 15W below the 6850, most likely as a result of PowerTune keeping the card firmly at 150W. Though it’s interesting to note that the measurements at the wall don’t perfectly align with the differences in PowerTune limits, with the 7850 drawing 30W more than the 7770 at the wall compared to a 50W PT difference, while the 7950 draws 30W more at the wall over the 7870 even though there’s only supposed to be a 10W PT difference.
AMD’s latest generation blowers do quite well with idle temperatures and we can see it here. At 30C for the 7850 it’s every bit as cool as the GTX 560 Ti, while the entire 7800 series is around 5-8C cooler than the 6900.
Under load, Metro temperatures are also quite good. At 62C the 7850 is the coolest card in this performance class, but keep in mind that it’s basically using an oversized cooler; retail cards will be open air coolers with much different characteristics. Otherwise at 68C the 7870 is still among the coolest cards, coming ahead of even the historically cool GTX 560 Ti, never mind the much hotter 6900 series.
Load temperatures climb under OCCT, but again the 7800 series is among the coolest temperatures we see. Here we see the 7870 peak at 73C, whereas its last generation counterpart would be at 80C and the GTX 570 at a toasty 87C.
Moving on to noise testing, there are no major surprises at idle, with the 7870 hugging 40db. For whatever reason the 7850’s minimum fan state is roughly 200RPM higher than the 7870’s, but since no one will be using this cooler it’s not a significant result.
Consistent with AMD’s other 7000 series cards, we’re once again seeing the consequences of AMD’s aggressive cooling policies coupled with the use of a blower. At 48.8dB the 7870 is still quieter than the blower-based 6870, but it’s significantly louder than the open air cooled GTX 560 Ti, even though the latter consumes far more power and generates far more heat. This doesn’t make the use of a blower the wrong choice, but combined with aggressive cooling policies it does hurt AMD. The GTX 570, in spite of using much more power than the 7870, is only less than 2dB louder even though it too uses a blower.
Last, but not least we have our OCCT noise results. Unlike Metro the 7800 series does better on a relative basis here, but this is mostly because NVIDIA doesn’t have a power throttling system quite like PowerTune. At 51.9dB the 7870 is not the quietest card, but it still manages to beat the 6970 and the PowerTune-less 6870.
All things considered there are no great surprises here on a relative basis, as the 7800 series performs like we’d expect for a blower based sub-200W video card. Due to TSMC's 28nm process AMD greatly improves on their performance/power and performance/noise ratios with the 7800 series compared to the 6800 and 6900 series, while for their power class the 7800 series is slightly ahead of the pack on both power consumption and noise.
With that said, keep in mind that since most of AMD’s partners will be using open air coolers these results won’t be applicable to most retail cards. So for the temp/noise characteristics of retail cards you’ll want to look at individual card reviews when those start appearing later this month. This is particularly true for the 7950, where all of the retail cards will be using a different design than our sample.
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mak360 - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link
Enjoy, now go and buyImSpartacus - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link
Yeah, I'm trying to figure out if a 7850 could go in an Alienware X51. It looks like it uses a 6 pin power connector and puts out 150W of heat.While we would lose Optimus, would it work?
taltamir - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link
optimus is laptops only. You do not have optimus with your desktop.ImSpartacus - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link
The X51 has desktop Optimus."The icing on the graphics cake is that the X51 is the first instance of desktop Optimus we've seen. That's right: you can actually plug your monitor into the IGP's HDMI port and the tower will power down the GPU when it's not in use. This implementation functions just like the notebook version does, and it's a welcome addition."
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5543/alienware-x51-t...
In reality, if I owned an X51, I would wait so I could shove the biggest 150W Kepler GPU in there for some real gaming.
But I'm sure the X51 will be updated for Kepler and Ivy Bridge, so now wouldn't be the best time to get an X51.
Waiting games are lame...
scook9 - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link
Wrong. Read a review.....The bigger issue will be the orientation of the PCIe Power Connector I expect. I have a tightly spaced HTPC that currently uses a GTX 570 HD from EVGA because it was the best card I could fit in the Antec Fusion enclosure. If the PCIe power plugs were facing out the side of the card and not the back I would have not been able to use it. I expect the same consideration will apply to the even smaller X51kungfujedis - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link
he does. x51 is a desktop with optimus.http://www.theverge.com/2012/2/3/2768359/alienware...
Samus - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link
EA really screwed AMD over with Battlefield 3. There's basically no reason to consider a Radeon card if you plan on heavily playing BF3, especially since most other games like Skyrim, Star Wars, Rage, etc, all run excellent on any $200+ card, with anything $300+ being simply overkill.The obvious best card for Battlefield 3 is a Geforce GTX 560 TI 448 Cores for $250-$280, basically identical in performance to the GTX570 in BF3. Even those on a budget would be better served with a low-end GTX560 series card unless you run resolutions above 1920x1200.
If I were AMD, I'd concentrate on increasing Battlefield 3 performance with driver tweaks, because it's obvious their architecture is superior to nVidia's, but these 'exclusive' titles are tainted.
kn00tcn - Monday, March 5, 2012 - link
screwed how? only the 7850 is slightly lagging behind, & historically BC2 was consistently a little faster on nvalso BF3 has a large consistent boost since feb14 drivers (there was another boost sometime in december, benchmark3d should have the info for both)
chizow - Tuesday, March 6, 2012 - link
@ SamusBF3 isn't an Nvidia "exclusive", they made sure to remain vendor agnostic and participate in both IHV's vendor programs. No pointing the finger and crying foul on this game, it just runs better on Nvidia hardware but I do agree it should be running better than it does on this new gen of AMD hardware.
http://www.amd4u.com/freebattlefield3/
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/games/Pages/battlefie...
CeriseCogburn - Monday, March 26, 2012 - link
In the reviews here SHOGUN 2 total war is said to be the very hardest on hardware, and Nvidia wins that - all the way to the top.--
So on the most difficult game, Nvidia wins.
Certainly other factors are at play on these amd favored games like C1 and M2033 and other amd optimized games.
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Once again, on the MOST DIFFICULT to render Nvidia has won.